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HB says that Aristotle thought concepts referred to a metaphysically special form “inside” substances. But even some medieval scholastics interpreted this logically, not metaphysically. And some Objectivists think that the conventional, forms as real, view is not or may not be Aristotle or consistently so. In _Aristotle’s Philosophy Of Biology_, James Lennox recently says his epistemology and science are consistent withĀ each other and withĀ a contextual view of concepts and even an early version of Rand’s measurement-omission with “the more and the less.” Lennox continued the research from _Philosophical Issues In Aristotle’s Biology_, edited by he and Allan Gotthelf.Ā
Allied to this is John McCaskey’s complex reconstruction of a part of Aristotle’s _Prior Analytics_ in which induction, as conventionally interpreted, is reduced to deduction. If I correctly recall, McCaskey denies this reduction but I don’t recall what he thinks is Aristotle’s view. I believe this is in an academic journal and found online at McCaskey’s web site. HB, in an independent comment in _HWK_, rejects the reduction of induction to deduction.
Because someone on HBL said that Gotthelf (Salmieri?) praised _The Lagoon_, on Aristotle’s discovery of scientific method, I’m going to buy it and watch a YouTube BBC documentary on it. After debating online posters who confuse arbitrary Pragmatist testing in a random universe with science and who believe Aristotle was a rationalist refuted by the rise of modern science, it’s very encouraging to read what may be a renaissance of The Philosopher among non-Objectivists, perhaps encouraged by Gotthelf, etc.
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>> HB says that Aristotle thought concepts referred to a metaphysically special form “inside” substances. But even some medieval scholastics interpreted this logically, not metaphysically. << The conventional interpretation of Aristotle, which Ayn Rand took, is that he believed in essence as metaphysical, as an element or form shared identically among all concrete instances of a class. But there are other reputable interpretations. Robert Mayhew mentioned them at least once in his lectures on Aristotle. Curious, I tried reading Aristotle directly to see what I thought. I went straight to Book Zeta of the metaphysics, which is arguably the hardest most technical part of his writing. In his book heĀ wrestles hard withĀ the question: what is primary being? e.g. what is an entity? Its fascinating, difficult, technical reading, and I certainly confess that I read it as an amateur. However, that said, for what it’s worth, my opinion after reading the material itself isĀ thatĀ the conventional view is correct and that Aristotle clearly held the view that “essence” is metaphysical. It’s just all over the place as a background premise of his thought.
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I believe Lennox meant only Prior Analytics, not Metaphysics. And the translation could be a problem, especially if done within the context of metaphysical forms. Lennox and Gotthelf and Salmieri seem to have made original translations. I read the Metaphysics years ago and only to find Aristotle’s view on “existence is identity.” I dont recall muchĀ except that Aristotle has an unusual abstractness, whether of mere grammatical form or something philosophically important. But, at least, he discusses reality so the difficulty is acceptable, unlike Kant.
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>> But, at least, he discusses reality so the difficulty is acceptable, unlike Kant.
Agreed. And unlike Kant, the difficulty was not deliberate! The difficulty is caused by the loss of original text and the mangling over the centuries. Not Aristotle’s fault in the least.
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lSome, with dissenters, claim difficulty because we have only students’ notes. Extraordinary students! Its a good thing they weren’t today’s students! “All men by nature will Callisto go to the Games with me tomorrowĀ desire to know.”Ā
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The conventional interpretation is not correct.
I work from the principle of interpretive charity. Ā This means several things. Ā First, it means that Aristotle’s system is a whole – and Aristotle knew that. Ā Second, that when an idea found in Aristotle blatantly contradicts the framework of his system – that section is in all probability an emendation by a church father somewhere along the line. Ā Thirdly, modern translations are filled with Latin terminology, terminology which is highly misleading. Ā (Joe Sach’s translations are the best in my opinion.)
Taking Aristotle’s work as a whole, I do not believe that he believed that forms were contained somehow within entities.
Apart from “History of Animals”, some of the clearest evidence is in “The Categories.”
“Yet this is not peculiar to substance, for it is also the case that differentiae cannot be present in subjects. Ā The characteristics of ‘terrestrial’ and ‘two-footed’ are predicated of the species ‘man’ but not _present in it_. . . for in explaining the phrase ‘being present in a subject, we stated that we meant ‘otherwise than as parts in a whole.'”
The Latin “substance” is “ousia” in Greek – it means entity.
The Latin “predicated of” is the translation for “said of” in Greek. Ā
“Thus ‘man’ is predicable [said of] of the individual man, _and is never present in a subject [never present in the actual man]. Ā By being ‘present in a subject’ I do not mean as parts are present in a whole, but being incapable of existence apart from the said subject.”
Thus, the concepts of “terrestrial” or “biped” or even “man” are said of/spoken of the entity man to describe him. Ā These concepts are not found inside him.
Further, in “The Categories”, Aristotle clearly gives many examples of ideas being formed using the “more and the less” – that is, measurements within a range compared against a background.
Ayn Rand is not to be faulted for accepting the standard interpretation of Aristotle since she did not read him in the original nor was she a scholar.
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Ray, thank you for your very interesting post. I see you have a different interpretation than mine. I certainly consider the possibility that you may be correct.
Second, that when an idea found in Aristotle blatantly contradicts the framework of his system ā that section is in all probability an emendation by a church father somewhere along the line.
That’s a very strong statement. I would mean that we should expect Aristotle’s system to be almost perfectly consistent. I remember Dr. Mayhew warning against exactly that approach in his lectures on Aristotle. That approach would mean that some pretty major parts of Aristotle were invented.
For example, “prime matter” which is pure potentiality, and the “prime mover” which is pure actuality. These are major elements in Aristotle which do contradict the spirit and letter his entire system. These ideas contradict Aristotle’s “primacy of the entity” approach, in which potentiality and actuality are entity-based concepts, e.g. the potentiality or actuality of an entity, not free floating “bare potentiality” or “pure actuality”.
Yet I think Aristotle was driven to the concepts “prime matter” and the “prime mover” by the workings of logic on incorrect premises, going from Dr. Peikoff’s lecture. It doesn’t seem to be the kind of thing that church father could just slip in.
Of course, there are things that do seem like a church father could have slipped in. For example, Aristotle’s nod to immortality in one section could have been slipped in or re-worded. Wouldn’t surprise me.
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I hadn’t considered dishonest, pro-mysticism translations. Presumably, Objectivist scholars will correct those.Ā Also, I believe that Lennox found evidence for contextual, non-metaphysical essences in the Metaphysics. Its a sufficiently abstract and difficult issue to provide an opening for incompetent and dishonest religious scholars. Given the translations here, more Objectivist precision in translation is needed. Rand leaves no such ambiguity (although some interpret her as implictly religious!).
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Any idea why Aristotle thought inventing Categories were necessary. From Objectivist perspective I think Categories are a good way to understand the CCD of early concepts of entities, actions, attributes etc. Though objectivist categories of entity,attribute, adverbs, spatial and temporal relationships like prepositions is better.
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The best book here is _The Discovery of Things_. Ā It is an analysis of _The Categories_ with a revolutionary position. Ā Amazon it.
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Aristotle’s discovery of things (as amusingly bizarre as that seems) is an explicit statement of something widely recognized in a slightly less explicit way. I.e., the non-identity, non-causal, coincidental metaphysics of most(?) philosophers, e.g., atomists, Plato, and empiricists. _The Discovery of Things_ by Wolf. Mann. is recent, perhaps leading to a new discovery of things, certainly a good…thing.
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I said that HWK contained the claim that Aristotle was an epistemological realist. But, reading HWK for the second time, I see that I forgot the reference to Lennox’s discussion of Aristotle’s epistemological objectivity. #<[
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