- This topic has 6 voices and 15 replies.
-
AuthorPosts
-
-
I’m still assembling my thoughts on the topic but I wanted to get the ball rolling by bringing it to everyone’s attention here first. Apparently there is a new adaptation of The Fountainhead in development by director Zack Snyder. For those of you that don’t know the name offhand, you most likely will be hearing more and more of it after next week as he is the director of “Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice”. If anything, he makes very lush and stylized films, as seen in the film “300”, and he always seems to have a decidedly non-Leftist point of view.
Sadly, this was the least vulgar article I could find regarding the information release.
http://collider.com/zack-snyder-the-fountainhead-movie/
I was quite shocked, even though I shouldn’t have been, regarding the outright vitriol, nastiness, and utter misrepresentation of Ayn Rand’s work by both the article’s authors and fools in the comments section spouting off about concepts of which they clearly had no grasp nor a whit of understanding. One comment I noticed regarded a line spoken in the new Batman/Superman film that caused much consternation amongst the trolls. It was a line said by Ma Kent to her adopted son at about 1:30 of the video.
“People hate what they don’t understand. Be their hero, Clark, be their angel, be their monument, be anything they need you to be… or be none of it! You don’t owe this world a thing, you never did.”
-
Thanks for posting this! I still watch the original movie every few years and I think I have seen every Gary Cooper movie at this point.
Let’s hope they don’t mess this up like they did Atlas Shrugged….
-
In my view, those who made the Atlas Shrugged films were the film making equivalent of beginners. Zach Snyder is a highly accomplished film maker who will not make the same errors which they did. But I do not not mean that he will necessarily make a film based on TF which Objectivists will enjoy. (see my other comment on this thread.)
-
Re: Jeff Janisch’s post 99272 of 03/17/16 at 9:18pm
Zach Snyder is an highly accomplished film maker and in that context, it makes sense that he would be attracted to a novel such as The Fountainhead. What any able film maker looks for is a strong central conflict which will support two hours or so of story telling. Clearly, TF, with all the major characters fiercely lined up against Roark while he pursues his career as a an architect, provides that kind of profound conflict and would attract the attention of such a film maker.
But what Snyder might do with TF is, in my view, problematic. Based on his films such as Watchmen and Sucker Punch, as I interpret his world view from those films, it is definitely not anything like that of Objectivists. (I found Watchmen to be dismal and repellent. I did not see but did read the plot summary of Sucker Punch.)
-
Re: Jeff Janisch’s post 99272 of 03/17/16 at 9:18pm
Zack Snyder . . . . makes very lush and stylized films, as seen in the film “300”,
“300” was very dramatically intense, not merely lush and stylized. This could be such an excellent concretization of individualism that Leftists will loudly condemn it, provoking much controversy and bringing many to the theatre. Despite Doug’s warning about some of Snyder’s other movies, I’m looking forward to this. If it affects the 2018 elections, this could be the cultural breakout of Objectivism. The lead actors must be chosen with unusual care.
-
Re: Stephen Grossman’s post 111907 of 03/18/16 at 5:08pm
Stephen I hope that if Snyder makes TF, we can all enjoy it. But both Watchmen and Sucker Punch came after 300 chronologically. 300 was an enormous financial success which (I’m guessing) may have given Snyder the opportunity to make movies more in line with his personal taste and world view. Again, if he makes TF, I’d like to be ‘proven wrong’.
-
Re: Douglas Mayfield’s post 111908 of 03/18/16 at 5:16pm
300 was an enormous financial success which (I’m guessing) may have given Snyder the opportunity to make movies more in line with his personal taste and world view.
What a great thought. I fear at this moment many of his friends are trying to convince him not to make this type of movie!
-
Jeff Janisch reports in post 99272, “Apparently there is a new adaptation of The Fountainhead in development by director Zack Snyder” whose recent work is as “the director of ‘Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice'”. The link which Jeff J. provides says that the director “has his sights set” on Rand’s novel, and quotes the director saying “I have been working on The Fountainhead,” but does not state that any contractual arrangements have been made.
I’m dubious that Zack Snider has pursued the rights, given that he is quoted saying “Warner Bros. owns [Ayn Rand’s] script and I’ve just been working on that a little bit”, but makes no mention of ownership of the rights to film anew any adaptation of the novel. Though it’s true that Ayn Rand sold Warner Bros. what were in 1943 all screen rights to the novel, the matter does not end there. At the time the novel was published, no copyright on a published work could last longer than 56 years. Congress extended that several times beginning in 1962, and with a thoroughly revised Copyright Act in 1976, Congress introduced a change whereby after 56 years, licensees would continue to hold rights to existing adaptations (e.g., Warner Bros.’ 1949 movie of The Fountainhead) but cease to have the rights to create new adaptations after the 56th year of copyright, if the author (or heir) forbade such in formal declarations made during a specified time window.
The 56th anniversary of the copyright of The Fountainhead novel was in May 1999. On August 3, 1999, Leonard Peikoff executed a Termination of Transfer upon Simon & Schuster (as successor to Bobbs Merrill), Penguin Putnam, Warner Bros. Pictures, Inc., and Turner Entertainment Group. A copy of this Termination was processed by the United States Copyright Office on August 4, 1999, and it was recorded therein as document V3439D351. (This latter number is all you need to request the document at the Copyright Office.)
The Termination of Transfer reads in part:
Pursuant to the Copyright Act of 1976, 17 U.S.C. §304(c), the undersigned notifies you that as of the effective date listed below all rights in the work listed below which you may have secured under one or more of the below described transfers or licenses shall be terminated and revert to the undersigned as the terminating party.
TERMINATING PARTY:
Leonard Peikoff
Listed after various publishing contracts is:
Agreement, dated November 3, 1943 among Ayn Rand, The Bobbs Merrill Company Inc. and Warner Bros. Pictures, Inc. (and/or Turner Entertainment Group, as successor to Warner Bros. Pictures, Inc.) for the exclusive, complete and entire motion picture rights in the novel, THE FOUNTAINHEAD.
TERMINATION DATE:
The effective date of termination for the above-described terminated work is August 6, 2001.
What this means is that no new film adaptation of The Fountainhead can be made without the authorization of Leonard Peikoff or the Peikoff Family Partnership (legal successor to Leonard Peikoff as an individual as rights-holder to Ayn Rand’s copyrights).
-
Re: David Hayes’ post 111911 of 03/18/16 at 8:02pm
Thank you very much for the clarification, David. In my zeal to announce I may have skipped over an important detail.
I am a fan of some of Zack Snyder’s work and there is much evidence he leans towards the non-Left end of the spectrum. I say non-Left as opposed to Conservative or Libertarian as I’m not precisely sure where his philosophy lies. However, his breakout movie was based on King Leonidas and the Battle of Thermopylae from the graphic novel by Frank Miller, another well-known non-Leftist. “300” was wildly successful and yet roundly criticized in the media for its pro-Western slant (God forbid!). In addition to adapting Miller’s “300”, so too is Snyder cribbing extensively from his graphic novel “The Dark Knight Returns” for his Superman/Batman film.
While the “Watchmen” was a slavish adaptation of the graphic novel of the same name, or as much as it could be given the length of the book, its themes were quite nihilistic and dour. But considering the source was from known curmudgeon and Ayn Rand hater Alan Moore, that was to be suspected. As an aside, the amusing thing about “Watchmen” is that the “hero” of the book, the right wing brute Rorschach, was apparently supposed to be a rib on Objectivist (-ish?) Steve Ditko comic book characters. Funny thing, though, is that the Leftist wannabe hero of the book SPOILER ALERT fulfilled his dream of slaughtering untold millions of people and destroying dozens of cities across the globe in an attempt to convince world powers that war is bad. You may slap your head now.
“Even if his politics are completely mad. He has this ferocious moral integrity.” – Alan Moore on Rorschach.
And yes he says that as though it were a bad thing. Anyway, despite the differing themes between “Watchmen” and “300”, Snyder does show a penchant for staying as close to the source material as possible without altering the author’s ideas too much. And I certainly would trust him to craft a faithful TF adaptation over someone like the current Batman of his new film, Ben Affleck. A decent director in his own right, but boy howdy has he sipped the Leftist Kool-Aide a bit too much.
I’d be curious to know if this has truth to it as far as Snyder showing interest by contacting Dr. Peikoff, or if he was just putting it out there as something he was interested in doing. I would think given his apparent leanings that he may be able to do the story justice. Of all the adaptations he could be doing, he did choose TF. And given the level of vitriol and/or outright misunderstanding of Ayn Rand in Hollywood, again he chose her second most important novel as something he’d like to translate to film.
-
If ever there was a project that should stay in development hell, this is it.
http://io9.gizmodo.com/zack-snyder-is-adapting-ayn-rands-the-fountainhead-for-1765559858
-
Re: Jesse Forgues’ post 111923 of 03/19/16 at 1:11am
Indeed, Jesse, that was one of the more “polite” of the nasty articles I discovered on the subject. Do yourself a favor and don’t read the comments section if you value not being frustrated for the rest of the day.
Also, the website Gizmodo is part of the Gawker family of websites. Notorious gossip and sleaze factories to their core, they thankfully now have a good chance of going out of business thanks to the 100+ million dollar judgment against them in the defamation lawsuit brought about by none other than professional wrestler Hulk Hogan, of all people. Strange times indeed.
-
If Dr. Peikoff owns the rights to The Fountainhead, why does Zach Synyder say “Warner Bros. owns [Ayn Rand’s] script and I’ve just been working on that a little bit”?
Is Snyder just mistaken?
-
Re: Tony White’s post 111949 of 03/20/16 at 1:17pm
Warner Bros. almost certainly owns Ayn Rand’s script inasmuch as it was written under contract to them. That is a different matter than owning the rights to film an adaptation of the novel after 2001 (the date specified in the 1999 notice). A film can entail a “basket of rights” (a term used by at least one lawyer specializing in film copyright); story source, music, lyrics, rights to identify actual persons, etc., may have to be licensed from multiple parties.
-
Re: David Hayes’ post 111951 of 03/20/16 at 1:49pm
I think I see. If I wanted to do a remake of The Fountainhead with my own script, I would need Dr. Peikoff’s permission. But if I wanted to use Ayn Rand’s script, I would need to get both Warner’s and Dr. Peikoff’s permission. Is that correct?
-
Re: Tony White’s post 111953 of 03/20/16 at 3:15pm
Yes, Tony. To read evidence that courts have ruled on the basis of an understanding of copyright law whereby multiple rights-holders may be involved, visit a web page I prepared which summarizes several court decisions on underlying copyrights: http://chart.copyrightdata.com/c10D.html. The timeline graphic which positions several versions of Madame Butterfly, at http://chart.copyrightdata.com/c10D.html#s137, might communicate the issue at a glance.
-
Re: Jeff Janisch’s post 99272 of 3/17/16
One-line summary: Some analysis of Zack Snyder, Batman and Ayn Rand.
-
-
AuthorPosts
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.